Still hoping I am wrong or Regime Change Part II

[3043]

Never have I wanted to be so wrong before but jesus h. christ and a popsicle stick - I think there is a hurricane a-brewing.

I posted in another thread about March being a seminal month for the future of the US, Dubya and Iran and it looks like I was right.

Out of the frying pan and into the fire.

The bumbling mistake of Iraq was just a prelude. Things might get much much worse. Iraq shows just how badly things can go wrong when an administration, led by chickenhawks, fools and anti-american hypocrites rashly embraces simple military solutions to complicated problems, shutting its ears to all and any criticism while ignoring military and intelligence professionals who turn out to be tragically prescient. That lesson has yet to be absorbed by the Bush administration, which is now reportedly honing plans for airstrikes on Iranian nuclear facilities.


How do we go to war with Iran when we are already involved on two other fronts?

First you have to prime the pump of the american people's mindset:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060408/wl_mideast_afp/usirannuclearmilitary

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/04/11/D8GTUL906.html

Then you make people confident that the use of nukes is ok AND that we are far superior to other nuclear capable nations:

"It will probably soon be possible for the United States to destroy the long-range nuclear arsenals of Russia or China with a first strike."
From the March/April 2006 edition of:

http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20060301faessay85204/keir-a-lieber-daryl-g-press/the-rise-of-u-s-nuclear-primacy.html

I know that routine contingency planning goes on all the time in the Pentagon, but the discussions on Iran seem to have progressed beyond this level, with high administration officials pushing the process and dropping indirect hints of possible future American military action in language that seem virtually identical to the bullshit statements made before the invasion of Iraq.

There's a secondary audience for all this, and it's us. Most people don't read from the foriegn affairs periodicals. But the info can get to us.

Going nuclear has long been unthinkable, and the powers that be consider the problem of using nukes to be the prohibition of our ethics AND not that the weapons themselves are bad in anyway.

So leaks are leaked and denied and the media assets go to work. It's how the unthinkable enters common thought.

The Washington Post reports that "two main options are being seriously considered - a limited strike against Iranian nuclear-related sites or a broader campaign against a wider range of military and political targets. The planners are also looking at ways America could use tactical nuclear weapons to penetrate Iran's heavily reinforced underground uranium enrichment complex at Natanz. The British government is said to take Washington's planning exercises seriously enough to have worked out security arrangements for its own diplomats and citizens in the event of American air attacks."

Sorry no link for that directly - you have to have log in. But as a concerned and informed citzenry of our great republic I am sure you can find the article.


I've felt for a while that we're entering a 3 to 9 month carpet bombing (metaphorically speaking) campaign designed to soften up public resistance to invading/attacking Iran. Unfortunately (or fortunately, depeding on your outlook) the Junta in control of the US is bogged down from "going it alone" or whatever Bush so gallantly promised three years ago before 2000+ US soldiers and an untold amount of innocent people died.

Remember when pre-emptive strikes were what fascists and warmongers did? Since when is that the policy of the US?

Peace, justice and goodwill towards mankind are american values. I dont see much peace justice and goodwill for all mankind on the tip of a nuclear missile, do any of you?



Freedom means more than the freedom to obey or the freedom to conform.

[McTucket]

i think the hawk you're referring to isnt a chicken...

[3043]

i think the hawk you're referring to isnt a chicken...


Which one? The one that pussied out on Vietnam with a piss poor record of Guard duty or the one that pussied out on Vietnam because he was in college and his wife was expecting children? Or the one that failed to personally sign the notices of ultimate sacrifice by brave american soldiers to said soldier's families until the media forced him to? Or the one...it goes on and on.

My family has served in every major US conflict since and including WWII as both officers and elisted men. In 1991I had three generations come and tell me, just prior to Gulf War I not to sign up (I had already taken my ASVAB and had my physical scheduled) and man I am glad I didn't. I can't see how anyone in the military could vote republican...

[McTucket]

you didnt. good job./

[Mr.Pink]

I just don't like the idea of Nukes.... put me on a sailboat in the middle of the Atlantic and call me when it's all over

[Sammie]

we are talking about a country that was established from genocide, why would you expect anything more?

Mankind deserves every hardship it burdens itself with. Its just painful to watch the trainwreck in slow motion.

[McTucket]

nukes are a scare tactic. they should have never been invented... but the good thing about them is that everyone is scared of them... scared to use them...

i can understand irans position of wanted to be on the same level as all of the other world powers... i just wish that i knew whether or not they were going to use them, or try to intimidate others with them.

[Sammie]

what's the purpose in building them if youre not going to use them?

they were built to be used

hard reality but suck it up

you have yet to see the meaning of the word suffering....but in this lifetime, we will come to understand it

I believe we (mankind) have a tough road ahead of us

[3043]

nukes are a scare tactic. they should have never been invented... but the good thing about them is that everyone is scared of them... scared to use them...

i can understand irans position of wanted to be on the same level as all of the other world powers... i just wish that i knew whether or not they were going to use them, or try to intimidate others with them.


I must completely agree with my conservative friend here; if only we knew what they would do with them. So far, only the USA has ever used nukes in war.

And we have been lied to in the past by our allies about the future of nuclear material. We supplied India with all the stuff needed to make reactors in the late 60's/early seventies and they promised out the wazoo that they would never use the stuff to make bombs. Well, the quickly reneged and make some tactical nukes within a VERY short time. So what did the US do? We supplied their neighbor and at the time closer ally to us Pakistan with nukes to keep things even.

I don't know what the answer is but nuking/invading Iran is not it.

[3043]

what's the purpose in building them if youre not going to use them?

they were built to be used

hard reality but suck it up

you have yet to see the meaning of the word suffering....but in this lifetime, we will come to understand it

I believe we (mankind) have a tough road ahead of us
WTF is today opposite day? Tucket is being all liberal and Sammie is being all doom and gloom?

Hope springs eternal and if we could toss all nuclear bombs into the radioactive dustbin of history I would be glad. It's not too late. We can still minimize the trainwreck.

[McTucket]

if not nukes, there would be something else...


revelations is almost upon us guys... (but of course my g-ma has been saying that for years)


sammie, YOU have yet to see suffering... we all have.

if nukes were built to be used(minus hiroshimo and nagasaki)... wheres the usage?


they might have been intended to use, but once the world saw the devestation caused by such, every single mother fucking country is scared to use it.


you reap what you sow... karma.

[JimbobSS]

Nuclear Bombs yes, Nuclear power no. We really don't know what they are going to do with their new found technology, but the only thing we could and should do is sit back and see what happens. I don't think the US should get involved with this bullshit in the middle east anymore, or at least until the ones who complain and hate the US come crying back to us like the little bitches they know they are. Seriously, I think bush just might be serious about nuking them (he is a C average president after all) and when he does we are gonna get a whole bunch of shit flung back at us. I don't really care what happens, I wish I could do more to fight the morons in this country but even if I could do such a thing I would tired quickly with their repetative idiotic thinking and just give in. Nice knowing you all, and if the bombs start dropping next month, remember to tuck your head between your knees and kiss your ass goodbye. :smile:

[Sammie]

WTF is today opposite day? Tucket is being all liberal and Sammie is being all doom and gloom?

Hope springs eternal and if we could toss all nuclear bombs into the radioactive dustbin of history I would be glad. It's not too late. We can still minimize the trainwreck.

Hope is the worst of evils, for it prolongs the torments of man.
-Friedrich Nietzsche

I dont think the world is going to end tomorrow. I simply think mankind is patheticly lost in his own ego

[thegreaterbad]

You all have some crazy ass ideas, I swear you sit back and just form conspiracies in your head.

Lol, If we actually use nukes on Iran.....Do you really think we wouldnt just annihilate every piece of arsenal they have? They wouldnt be able to send any nukes back, because they would be sent back to the stone age by our military.

2nd, I see this as another Cold War, Just like the Soviet Union stockpiled their nukes(and they had a hella lot more than Iran does present day) and America has their stockpile, no one is going to use the nukes, because if they do. It will signal the beginning of World War III and then like Tucket said, It will begin the prophecy of Revelations.

But we wont go into religion, because half of you worship trees, and the other half are a minor form of anarchy.

Bottom line, Its either going to be a Cold War II standoff with nukes till someone backs down. Or we are going to rain holy hell upon Iran and they wont have anything to throw back at us, and the entire islamic world will hate us.

So all in all, the world is going to turn into one big melting pot, ( and I am not talking about immigrants getting a 2nd chance at life in the US)

Bottom line #2--> The worlds going to end with a war of the worlds, so either this is it, or we are just letting the pieces of the puzzle fall faster.

All in all, I am going to sit back, crack open a beer and watch the fireworks, and maybe get a second chance in the desert to bag myself some Towelheads :cool:

[3043]

Bleh, the Christian mythos is just one in a very long line of many religions with endtime, doom and gloom scenarios.

It is no more valid or accurate than the rest of religons and, to me, it is far less compeling.

Virtually every person who followed a religon thought that their's was the "one" but with all the religons that have come and gone what are the chances that the popular one you were born into (that is, born while that particular religion was popular), is actually the one? Of the billions of people on the planet only a comparitive few would be born "to" the right religion. That leaves BILLIONS burning in hell or Ghenna or whatever you believe simply bc of bad luck?

The people who thought Zeus was the mac-daddy felt just as fervidly about it as people feel about JC today or people felt about Osiris or feel about Moroni or ancestor worship or animal spirit reverance. Revelations ain't ever gonna get here its just always coming...

But the nuke thing ain't no conspiracy theory. Unless CBS and the other links I posted is into flaunting conspiracy theories.

It's funny that GB should mention the idea of Cold War part II bc alot of people I have talked to say this thing with Iran is just a cover to prove we have outpaced all other nuke capable countries and want to assert our dominace in a show of force much like Nagasaki and Hiroshima did in WWII. I think it is a little far fetched to use Iran as an "example" but from well educated otherwise normal people spring these ideas - this one (about Cold War II) isn't even from lil' ole 3043).

[McTucket]

30, stop worshiping trees!

[3043]

30, stop worshiping trees!


But trees are great!

Great to bang chicks under, anyway. LOL Canonball run anyone?

[JimbobSS]

But trees are great!

Great to bang chicks under, anyway. LOL Canonball run anyone?


I'm there man! :tongue:

[Raven]

I think you are all taking religion too literally.. All it is, is a belief system with certain presuppositions that were developed somewhat differently in different parts of the world due to varying living conditions. All major religions can be traced back to Mesopotamians and beginnings of civilization... the number of parallels in the themes and stories of various religions is immense... all they do is change the names of the characters and a few concepts, that's it... but they all tell basically the same story.
The 'descent into chaos' and end of the world themes sound grand and very permanent, but think of it this way: as any social group gets bigger, it also becomes static and resistant to change. Since the world is constantly changing, any governing system will eventually become obsolete.. and when the dominant moral structure fails, all the sub-systems will fight amongst themselves for supremacy, which brings anarchy.
Basically, what religion is telling us is that SHIT HAPPENS.. there are always periods of good and bad. Adam and Eve were cast out of heaven and into chaos. They started human civilization, out of which Egypt eventually emerged. But it got too corrupt so God washed 'em all away and gave humanity a new start (end of the old world, emerging of the new). This pattern keeps repeating itself throughout history. Genghis Khan was a brilliant ruler and tactician who created an awesome empire, but after his death it pretty much collapsed into anarchy (end of the world for mongols as they knew it). Same with any other major conflict in history. Same applies on a smaller scale - your best friend does something horrible, something you'd never expect of him, so in a sense, he's not the same person anymore.. your perception of him is thrown into a disarray, forcing you to rebuild it from the ground up.

Anyways, all that aside, I think USA is obsolete and it'll either have to change the way it does a lot of things, or it'll collapse. The latter will be more fun to watch.

[Hae-Yu]

I wouldn't worry about India so much as I would Iran or others. I do not think Iran would use nukes themselves, but they would give the technology to others and allow them to. This won't be a cold war and it won't be a standoff.

Think Beirut. While Iranians didn't drive the car into the marine compound, they and the Syrians were the ones behind it. I do think they would bankroll and operation that used a tactical nuke in the the US or Europe. I still can't forgive Reagan for not at least sending in HEAVY retaliatory strikes against Iran in response to that carnage. Less people were killed in the German disco which led to us striking Libya. If you let them get away with it, they only get bolder. What did Reagan do? He helped arm Saddam against Iran. Whoopee. That led to another mess.

You can see Al Qaida getting steadily bolder in attack after attack until 9/11, Madrid, and London. Reagan's & Clinton's whimpy behavior allowed it to grow to this level. That doesn't give Bush 2 a pass since he never addressed it in any of his first campaign platforms.

[Thunder]

Invading Iran/Bombin Iran = Thunder get's out of the AF.

BTW, we leave tonight for DC with a quick stop in PA to rest then tomorrow Bolling AFB. So no internet for a bit. See ya!

[L1veUndead]

Just a matter of time before we all blow the shit out of each other.

[3043]

You can see Al Qaida getting steadily bolder in attack after attack until 9/11, Madrid, and London. Reagan's & Clinton's whimpy behavior allowed it to grow to this level. That doesn't give Bush 2 a pass since he never addressed it in any of his first campaign platforms.

I recall FOX news and Sean Hannity in particular chiding President Clinton about his attacks on Al Qaida and the Taliban during the Monica Lewinsky "scandal". "No war for Monica," said Sean Hannity while Clinton lobbed missile at Al Qaida and the Taliban prior to 9/11.

[McTucket]

You can see Al Qaida getting steadily bolder in attack after attack until 9/11, Madrid, and London. Reagan's & Clinton's whimpy behavior allowed it to grow to this level. That doesn't give Bush 2 a pass since he never addressed it in any of his first campaign platforms.



hold on a second. reagan's wimpy behavior.. hes had the most balls to do anything since the 50's-60's....

hes one of the greatest presidents.

[McTucket]

Invading Iran/Bombin Iran = Thunder get's out of the AF.

BTW, we leave tonight for DC with a quick stop in PA to rest then tomorrow Bolling AFB. So no internet for a bit. See ya!



er sorry about the airport deal... i think i was hungover or something.... its tough to do legitimate things since ive got my newfound freedom, being 21 and all..


hit me up when you guys get here though... we'l do something, or il help you guys unpack at the very least.


btw, where in pa? i lived there for 13 years./

[3043]

Getting back to my original point - if anyone read my lengthy post in it's entirely. The "liberal" media (ha) continues to soften up the american mind in the direction of the administrations ambitions in Iran. Here is some more stuff just in the news today. For yesterdays "carpet bombing" of how we should think of Iran you will have to read my initial post.

I'll put pertintent quotes first then the article. You can read the article yourself if you don't believe me or if you think I have taken them out of context.

Karl Rove: a diplomatic solution over Iran's nuclear ambitions will be difficult because Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is "not a rational human being,"

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=politicsNews&storyid=2006-04-12T192323Z_01_N12343127_RTRUKOC_0_US-NUCLEAR-IRAN-ROVE.xml&rpc=22

'Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Wednesday the U.N. Security Council must consider "strong steps" to induce Tehran to change course.'

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/04/12/D8GUJVRG2.html


Why do I think I'll have new articles to post this week?


Here's hoping Thunder doesn't have to leave the Chair Force for any other reason than he wants to.

[Sammie]

hold on a second. reagan's wimpy behavior.. hes had the most balls to do anything since the 50's-60's....



hes one of the greatest presidents.

hahahaha!!!

[McTucket]

karl rove is a fag.


condi rice is a cool, smart person, but sucks at her job. give rollin colin powel any day. james baker ftw!

[3043]

karl rove is a fag.


condi rice is a cool, smart person, but sucks at her job. give rollin colin powel any day. james baker ftw!


I don't think Rove is a fag but I do think he is a bad, bad person.

Condi seems ok and I agree while very talented she is probably not in the position that is best for her abilities and talents. General Powel ain't coming back to that job for all the money in the world and I think he has some good reasons not to but he did appear good at it.

[McTucket]

yep.

[3043]

yep.

STOP AGREEING WITH ME, YOU ARE FREAKING ME OUT!

While I have no problem finding common ground with my fellow americans on the conservative side of politics your political affliations don't look kindly on "traitors". :lol:

I know there are a lot of good republicans out there - I have met many of them but none of them appear to be in office or at least in power in their party.

[3043]

Phreak out!!

[3043]

have to look far or hard for the contiuning inundation of news articles bent on softening up america's attitude towards an attack on Iran.

More carpet bombing, this makes day 3, and is by way of Bloomberg:

"Iran, defying United Nations Security Council demands to halt its nuclear program, may be capable of making a nuclear bomb within 16 days, a U.S. State Department official said."


http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000100&sid=aduNTcpDuDd4&refer=germany

"In theory, that many centrifuges could be used to develop the material needed for hundreds of nuclear warheads if Iran can perfect the techniques for producing the highly enriched uranium needed."

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/04/12/D8GUPBP8I.html
God, this is shades of the build up to the invasion of Iraq. Same shit, different war.

[McTucket]

i just wish that politicians didnt "have" to follow their party... all the time...


like i was reading an article in newsweek or some shit and they were talking about how theres this repub congressman from joysey who bush went to go visit and "help" him out at a campaign fundraiser..... the congressman showed up 15 minutes after bushy came and left! he blamed it on traffic, which everyone else said there was little to no traffic!

lol my point is that we need to not focus so much on whether a dude is left wing or right wing... what he stands for is what counts...

[3043]

i just wish that politicians didnt "have" to follow their party... all the time...


like i was reading an article in newsweek or some shit and they were talking about how theres this repub congressman from joysey who bush went to go visit and "help" him out at a campaign fundraiser..... the congressman showed up 15 minutes after bushy came and left! he blamed it on traffic, which everyone else said there was little to no traffic!

lol my point is that we need to not focus so much on whether a dude is left wing or right wing... what he stands for is what counts...


AAARGH!!!! You are still being more reasonable than I!!!! STOP FREAKING ME OUT ON MY BIRTHDAY!!!!!:lol:

[McTucket]

kisses.!

like hae-yu said, people need to stop focusing on whether the guy is a republican or a demo-pieceofshit. ( ;) )

and the politicians need to stop worrying about what their party will think or the prez, if they dont agree with them 100%...

we need to take it back.

[JimbobSS]

so how can I run for congress and win? Anyone able to front me some campaign money and have good ideas to get my name out and make it sound like I'm a big wig politician thats been around for years? mwahaha once I'm in it will take them an army to get me out! plus I agree with Tucket, and I can't remember if I posted it in the birthday thread but Happy Birthday 3043! :biggrin:

[McTucket]

dude my first step is running for mayor in my old stomping grounds, bethlehem, pa.. city of around 80 thousand, i think...

its time for a change, and im serious about it... i just need to go through college first..

i know alot of you disagree with what ive said in the past, but my opinions are open to change, and you have to start somewhere....

[3043]

dude my first step is running for mayor in my old stomping grounds, bethlehem, pa.. city of around 80 thousand, i think...

its time for a change, and im serious about it... i just need to go through college first..

i know alot of you disagree with what ive said in the past, but my opinions are open to change, and you have to start somewhere....
STOP BEING SO REASONABLE!!!!!! ARGH! You are smashing my stererotypes! LOL

ok seriously now. Ahem, cough cough.

Tucket if you are serious about running for local office you don't have to wait till you get a degree. Lots of people have obtained local office with no degree. You have to finish your term in the military BUT then there are lots of posts you can run for (and I bet many unopposed or with little real opposition) before you head out for mayor.

We should talk more about this outside of my HIJACKED thread. I completely support:

1) opened mindedness with willingness to change

2) political aspirations to changed things for the better

Now take this shit to another thread.

[3043]

Time to divine why President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is behaving as Karl Rove potrays him - insane.

Initially, we can't rule out that he is actually just a complete Israel wanting destroyed nut. But although his rhetorc suggests it - at least from my western media sources - I find it difficult to believe even a crazy man would hope to achieve the ends he suggests by taunting the world. It's possible but it doesn't seem likely.

In fact, it doesn't add up at all. At best he is months away from making enough nukes to turn Israel into parking lot. It has been estimated that 10 or so nukes would make all of Israel unihabitable. There wouldn't be anything to "return" to palestine.

I think something else is up.

He could be purposely baiting the west but to what end?

BTW, fuck occam's razor, so don't bring it up.




Iran Leader: Israel Will Be Annihilated April 14th, 2006

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/04/14/D8GVSUC0H.html

[thegreaterbad]

dude my first step is running for mayor in my old stomping grounds, bethlehem, pa.. city of around 80 thousand, i think...

its time for a change, and im serious about it... i just need to go through college first..

i know alot of you disagree with what ive said in the past, but my opinions are open to change, and you have to start somewhere....


Holy shit stick, you were born damn near next to me....... I was born is bethlehem, lived in Catasqusaua(spell check) and went to Sheckler Elementary..... I moved to FL when I was 7
Are you my long lost brother separated at birth:shock:

[McTucket]

hehe...and i moved to cali when i was 12..

[3043]

Goddamned Hijackers!!!

I'm calling the thread police...Divine some shit about Iran muthafuckhas divine! fuck Pennsylvania...

Hey, when I finally send in my very tardy money to GNG do I get admin on the boards AND on the servers or just the servers? Cause I got a couple of hijackers here that need to see some american style justice...

BTW I chatted with a friend in the Navy tonight at dinner who is a pilot. He flew a bunch of missions in Afgahnistan and other places bombing the shit out of "doorknobs'. He is usually very relaxed about military and politcal matters but tonite when I switched the topic to Iran he made some unusual comments about China and then quickly and most unusually started talking about his remaining 11 months and how he was looking forward to flying for a commercial airline.

[McTucket]

just the server.

[Sammie]

just the server.

yup

no nazi action against the thread jackers

since i dont want to be lashed


sammie = thread stealing whore

:biggrin:

Viva La Restistance

[McTucket]

you're fucking evil...

[thegreaterbad]

Sammies sig makes me want to join the academy right now, get shipped to France, japan or even germany. Wait for some fuckers to start a protest....Then BAM WHAT BITCHES WHAT???!?!?!?


YOU want some CS in the facial... BAM Then they keep coming and I bring my baton down on the bitches skull WAP WAP


Finally I knock them on their asses with the water cannon.... and go get a doughnut.....Ahhh sweet sweet brutality :badgrin:

[LadyZzala]

Einstein created mass warfare and he hated himself for it...

It's not about being Democrat or Republican but about being human beings.

Right, Wrong, or Indifferent, we all want to live and love and have families.

Weapons that destroy complete countries hurt that ideal.

Life does not always have to be about death and hate.

Keep it simple and more humans live... and more kids.

[thegreaterbad]

Thats all very true and would be the solution...But without Hate, Violence, Strife, and War........ Where would Me, Tucket, Thunder, (formely) Machinist and others be. Without war, there would be no need for military's, and no need for military's means no careers for us. And that would be bad:doubt:

Lol, I just have this fever, and the only cure is more posts and more cowbell:tongue:

[McTucket]

fuck yeah.


"im kind of a big deal". " i have many leather bound books, and my apartment smells of rich mahogany"...

(it took my 15 minutes to write that and this, im soo fucked up)

[3043]

Lol, I just have this fever, and the only cure is more posts and more cowbell:tongue:


More cowbell, ftw

The carpet bombing continues today under unusual headlines:

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=worldNews&storyid=2006-04-16T155115Z_01_L16729463_RTRUKOC_0_US-IRAN-BOMBERS.xml&rpc=22

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=topNews&storyid=2006-04-16T220324Z_01_L16707281_RTRUKOC_0_US-NUCLEAR-IRAN.xml&rpc=22

[thegreaterbad]

Lets just wipe out the Arab race and start over... They arent that great, I lost my virginity to a Palestinian, and I hate them to this day. I bet they all suck in bed, lets Nuke the Middle East, grab some oil, and start a new theme park called "Shoot the Remaining Radiated Towelhead" and you could win a new car, with a yrs supply of their former gas :wink:

[McTucket]

wow.

[3043]

wow.
Come on Tucket you know you secretly feel the same way. These are modern times you can admit it...

[McTucket]

no. il stay with wow.

[3043]

I'm only kidding anyway. I don't think you really feel that way. 'Course, only you know the truth.

[McTucket]

no. you and i know the truth.

be my vice mayor.

[3043]

no. you and i know the truth.

be my vice mayor.


For my skills, my savy, my good looks or just to attract the lib vote?

[McTucket]

right now, the vote... i have to buttfuck you... you know, to get to know you more personally...

[3043]

right now, the vote... i have to buttfuck you... you know, to get to know you more personally...

A better place to start rather than man-ass or mayor might be something more simple - something to establish your dedication and skill at public service. In my new town a 19 year old was just elected to the Board of Education because no one ran against him. I will post the article as soon as I can find a web version...

[McTucket]

ok cool.

[3043]

Any remember my post about the Oil Bourse? My "conspiracy theory" about moving the backing currency of oil from the dollar to the euro?

Well the "carpet bombing" of softening up resistance to killing Iranians continues - in a different form.

Instead of headlines about how evil and bad iran is - i guess they werent working - we have shifted to a new focus - rising gas prices. And blaming Iran, indirectly, for said prices:

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/12417998/

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/news/14391807.htm

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/060420/480/la11304202125

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/04/21/D8H4HOQ80.html
I hope that this thread convinces at least one person that tin foil hats aren't needed to see this bullshit a-coming. Ever source I posted has been mainstream.

[papa smurf]

right now, the vote... i have to buttfuck you... you know, to get to know you more personally...lol tucket heres an ass 4 u:arrow: :lmaa:

[3043]

Today there are news reports of a letter written to President Bush from the President of Iran. The letter is not an "open" letter but it is the first correspondence between leaders of our countries in 27 years. The bush stance on the letter which mentions the need to work toghether?

"In Washington, Bush's National Security Adviser, Stephen Hadley, said Monday that he was not aware of any such letter, and he reiterated the administration's position on Iran's nuclear program."

Funny, I'm no diplomat, just a patriot, AND I know about the letter. Maybe they should keep their eyes open for such things?

Or perhaps the decision on how to "handle" Iran has already been made?

Sort of like how just after 9/11 'round about October Bush decided to invade Iraq but LIED RIGHT TO OUR FACES from about January '03 to the present? But we better beat up Clinton and Impeach him because he lied about a consensual extra-marital affair?

Impeach Bush now before any debacle in Iran occurs.

[3043]

Today there are news reports of a letter written to President Bush from the President of Iran. The letter is not an "open" letter but it is the first correspondence between leaders of our countries in 27 years. The bush stance on the letter which mentions the need to work toghether?

"In Washington, Bush's National Security Adviser, Stephen Hadley, said Monday that he was not aware of any such letter, and he reiterated the administration's position on Iran's nuclear program."

Funny, I'm no diplomat, just a patriot, AND I know about the letter. Maybe they should keep their eyes open for such things?

Or perhaps the decision on how to "handle" Iran has already been made?

Sort of like how just after 9/11 'round about October Bush decided to invade Iraq but LIED RIGHT TO OUR FACES from about January '03 to the present? But we better beat up Clinton and Impeach him because he lied about a consensual extra-marital affair?

Impeach Bush now before any debacle in Iran occurs.

[McTucket]

lol. and you think dick cheney is better suited to run the country? heheheh.

anyways... just simply denying knowing about the letter doesnt mean shit. its washington. theyve played the bullshit games since the beginning of time. you know better than that.


er.. impeach hillary clinton... shes not even from new york.