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HHBizzle
04-13-2006, 09:39 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060410/ap_on_go_pr_wh/election_phone_jamming_1

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Phone-Jamming Records Point to White House

By LARRY MARGASAK, Associated Press Writer Mon Apr 10, 4:55 PM ET

WASHINGTON - Key figures in a phone-jamming scheme designed to keep New Hampshire Democrats from voting in 2002 had regular contact with the White House and Republican Party as the plan was unfolding, phone records introduced in criminal court show.
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The records show that Bush campaign operative James Tobin, who recently was convicted in the case, made two dozen calls to the White House within a three-day period around Election Day 2002 — as the phone jamming operation was finalized, carried out and then abruptly shut down.

The national Republican Party, which paid millions in legal bills to defend Tobin, says the contacts involved routine election business and that it was "preposterous" to suggest the calls involved phone jamming.

The Justice Department has secured three convictions in the case but hasn't accused any White House or national Republican officials of wrongdoing, nor made any allegations suggesting party officials outside New Hampshire were involved. The phone records of calls to the White House were exhibits in Tobin's trial but prosecutors did not make them part of their case.

Democrats plan to ask a federal judge Tuesday to order GOP and White House officials to answer questions about the phone jamming in a civil lawsuit alleging voter fraud.

Repeated hang-up calls that jammed telephone lines at a Democratic get-out-the-vote center occurred in a Senate race in which Republican John Sununu defeated Democrat Jeanne Shaheen, 51 percent to 46 percent, on Nov. 5, 2002.

Besides the conviction of Tobin, the Republicans' New England regional director, prosecutors negotiated two plea bargains: one with a New Hampshire Republican Party official and another with the owner of a telemarketing firm involved in the scheme. The owner of the subcontractor firm whose employees made the hang-up calls is under indictment.

The phone records show that most calls to the White House were from Tobin, who became
President Bush's presidential campaign chairman for the New England region in 2004. Other calls from New Hampshire senatorial campaign offices to the White House could have been made by a number of people.

A GOP campaign consultant in 2002, Jayne Millerick, made a 17-minute call to the White House on Election Day, but said in an interview she did not recall the subject. Millerick, who later became the New Hampshire GOP chairwoman, said in an interview she did not learn of the jamming until after the election.

A Democratic analysis of phone records introduced at Tobin's criminal trial show he made 115 outgoing calls — mostly to the same number in the White House political affairs office — between Sept. 17 and Nov. 22, 2002. Two dozen of the calls were made from 9:28 a.m. the day before the election through 2:17 a.m. the night after the voting.

There also were other calls between Republican officials during the period that the scheme was hatched and canceled.

Prosecutors did not need the White House calls to convict Tobin and negotiate the two guilty pleas.

Whatever the reason for not using the White House records, prosecutors "tried a very narrow case," said Paul Twomey, who represented the Democratic Party in the criminal and civil cases. The Justice Department did not say why the White House records were not used.

The Democrats said in their civil case motion that they were entitled to know the purpose of the calls to government offices "at the time of the planning and implementation of the phone-jamming conspiracy ... and the timing of the phone calls made by Mr. Tobin on Election Day."

While national Republican officials have said they deplore such operations, the
Republican National Committee said it paid for Tobin's defense because he is a longtime supporter and told officials he had committed no crime.

By Nov. 4, 2002, the Monday before the election, an Idaho firm was hired to make the hang-up calls. The Republican state chairman at the time, John Dowd, said in an interview he learned of the scheme that day and tried to stop it.

Dowd, who blamed an aide for devising the scheme without his knowledge, contended that the jamming began on Election Day despite his efforts. A police report confirmed the Manchester Professional Fire Fighters Association reported the hang-up calls began about 7:15 a.m. and continued for about two hours. The association was offering rides to the polls.

Virtually all the calls to the White House went to the same number, which currently rings inside the political affairs office. In 2002, White House political affairs was led by now-RNC chairman Ken Mehlman. The White House declined to say which staffer was assigned that phone number in 2002.

"As policy, we don't discuss ongoing legal proceedings within the courts," White House spokesman Ken Lisaius said.

Robert Kelner, a Washington lawyer representing the Republican National Committee in the civil litigation, said there was no connection between the phone jamming operation and the calls to the White House and party officials.

"On Election Day, as anybody involved in politics knows, there's a tremendous volume of calls between political operatives in the field and political operatives in Washington," Kelner said.

"If all you're pointing out is calls between Republican National Committee regional political officials and the White House political office on Election Day, you're pointing out nothing that hasn't been true on every Election Day," he said.

thegreaterbad
04-13-2006, 10:43 AM
I love some good ol undermining....Ahhh it feels good to be a Independent/Republican......I can take credit when they actually do something good, and bash them when they Fawk up 90% of the time:badgrin:

3043
04-13-2006, 12:13 PM
From the "conservative" white house with "conservative" fiscal and social policies...



Government Spending Hits Record in March


By MARTIN CRUTSINGER, AP Economics Writer
Wed Apr 12, 6:08 PM ET



WASHINGTON - Government spending hit an all-time high for a single month in March, pushing the budget deficit up significantly from the red-ink level of a year ago.
In its monthly accounting of the government's books, the Treasury Department reported Wednesday that federal spending totaled $250 billion last month, up 13.7 percent from March 2005.
Government receipts also were up, rising 10.6 percent from a year ago, to $164.6 billion. That left a deficit for the month of $85.5 billion, a record imbalance for March...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060412/ap_on_go_ot/monthly_budget_3

Hae-Yu
04-13-2006, 12:41 PM
It's just another example of why the 2 party system needs doing away with. In my opinion, the elected officials in both parties stink. At this stage, we're back to the Tammany Hall politics where the only reason they run for office is to hold office.

While I didn't like Gingrich, he focused the Republican Party on the Contract for America. He said "if you vote for us this is what we'll do." I don't like many of the things associated with Reagan, but his primary objectives were the overthrow of the Communist threat and the reduction of nuclear arms. The USSR is defunct, only idiots believe that Communism or socialism are viable national economic models, and the US & Russia aren't trying to destroy each other, though the nuclear threat has morphed.

Democrats fought for social equality in the 60's but lost focus after the Civil Rights battles were as "won" as they could be.

While you may not agree with their goals, at least they had goals!!! Bush 2 and Clinton never had a real goal and everything they do is half-ass. They can raise tons of money. They can get elected. But they can't lead. Their hearts aren't in a cause. Republicans in Congress are the greatest spenders ever and Democrats can't even focus in spite of all the blunders the Republicans have made.

Both parties treat the War on Terror as a sideshow to their pet vote-getting projects. What are their priorities? Seriously. What's on the agenda? I really don't know.

We need more choices.

McTucket
04-13-2006, 03:45 PM
your first paragraph was perfect.

your examples of gingrich and reagan were outstanding....

i only have one question...

does there need to be a national crisis in order for a candidate to have "real goals"?


oh yeah, also, i completely agree with how f'd up the 2 party system is. everyone in gng knows im a republican... not 100%, but because i agree with MOST of their stances and views.

Sammie
04-13-2006, 05:25 PM
It's just another example of why the 2 party system needs doing away with. In my opinion, the elected officials in both parties stink. At this stage, we're back to the Tammany Hall politics where the only reason they run for office is to hold office.

Both parties treat the War on Terror as a sideshow to their pet vote-getting projects. What are their priorities? Seriously. What's on the agenda? I really don't know.

We need more choices.

amen to that

nicely said

personally i have become so disheartened with politics and humanity in generally that i dont even really care anymore.
it all seems like a really bad reality tv show

change the channel or turn off the box

its a waste of time and energy

there are more interesting things to burn your noddle with


http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/program.html

just as one example

JimbobSS
04-13-2006, 05:39 PM
we need money so we can advertise campaigns for certain things that need to be done, that way we can get petitions and the people needed to sign the petitions to make it stick. The public is out there, they want things done, its just difficult as hell to reach them. Has anyone written to their congressman/woman and actually had a response sent back to them?

Hae-Yu
04-14-2006, 08:24 AM
Harry Reid (D) and John Ensign (R) are my Senators and they write back. Reid is more personal - as if he or his aide are actually reading and responding. Ensign sends out form letters. Reid almost always responds, Ensign about 1/2 the time. Jim Gibbons does it somewhere in between and he sends out a bit more generic "this is my position on this position" letters.

In any case, it doesn't matter, because I don't like where any of them stand on many of the issues. Of all of them, Gibbons is the most sincere. Reid is an old timey politician who brings home the bacon (pork). He knows what will keep him in office. Ensign is a rich kid who's dad bankrolled his elections but really has no solid stance on anything. Just a vague "blah."

Nebula
04-14-2006, 09:50 AM
Hey, you guys would probably find this funny.

Everyone knows what google is...

go to google, and type in

"Failure" under the search query

then click on the "I'm feeling lucky" button, which is suppose to bring directly to the most relative site...

go ahead, try it... I dare you.

sylverarrow
04-14-2006, 10:42 AM
Hey, you guys would probably find this funny.

Everyone knows what google is...

go to google, and type in

"Failure" under the search query

then click on the "I'm feeling lucky" button, which is suppose to bring directly to the most relative site...

go ahead, try it... I dare you.

hahha, .oO but of course. :badgrin:

McTucket
04-14-2006, 11:21 AM
i already know and i havent done it yet./

you type in something other negative word , and it does the same thing... gj google...