united flight 83

[McTucket]

http://www.united93movie.com/index.php

the trailer is chilling...

i dont know if its too soon or not, but i plan on watching it.

btw universal pictures got the ok from each and every family member to make this movie...

[JimbobSS]

Only thing I can say is......WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF ANOTHER WAY TO MAKE MONEY BY EXPLOITING SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED 5 YEARS AGO!!!!

nah, it might be good though, I'll think about it. =)

[McTucket]

well dude it took 60 years for someone to make a movie about pearl harbor (2000, disney).... everyone wasnt sure even if they were ready for it then...

5 years seems way too soon... ive looked at feedback online about peoples reaction to the trailer and it seems to be real negative....like it was too soon.

[Animal]

I think everyone has heard some kind of hype about this movie. What I don't understand is why people care so much about something so small. There are movies that come out in theaters that I actively want to see and never go. So then, explain to me why people need to complain about something that they do not have to participate in.

If a new law gets passed that you don't agree with, protest or complain. It does affect you. If someone gets voted into office you don't like, samething.

However, if a movie is released that you don't agree with shut the hell up and get a life. No one cares. This is not communist Russia and you may feel free to NOT go see the movie.

I am on the fence about this movie. Not whether if it's right or wrong but just whether I want to watch it or not. I don't think I will bother to go see it in the theater just because I don't want to have to listen to everyone else. That and I don't want to pay a premium to watch this in a theater.

[Jethro]

There was already a TV movie made about flight 93

[McTucket]

ar, i agree.... i just think personally it might be wierd, for myself, to watch it.... i have mixed feelings... but if im bored one day, il probably go watch it.

[GraffiXX]

Tucket I agree with you. I have mixed feelings about this movie only because I watched the reviews on the news about "flight 93". A.R. Is right you have a right to not go if you chose.

But the point of me posting was to tell you all if you havent yet. GO out and find the Cell Phone Recording of a man on the 101st floor of the WTC Tower1. It was him talking to his wife saying he didnt know if he could get out. Him screaming for help and then all you hear is a boom and the sound of Bending metal and the Tower Collapsed. It was crazy gave me chills all over again like it did that day.


Oh another tidbit. That Video posted sometime ago about the Pentagon Conspriacy saying that it was a missile in fact and not a plane. Well I talked to my mother who had contractors working in the pentagon that day. The one woman remembers only that she was sitting in her office and she felt the ground rumble an explosion and the wall start movie towards her cubicle.
Yikes! Luckily she called for help and someone got her out of her office space.



I think I will wait for this movie to come out on DVD. Not one to watch in movie theatres for me I think.

[McTucket]

yeah a bunch of my old friends and guys who i worked with, who were around at that time had to go over there and help secure the pentagon/look for survivors.... we're like a 5 minute walk from base to the pentagon...

hehe they saw plane parts.... so you can count out the conspiracy, even though it was cool to watch....

[psychonaut13]

where were the plane parts? i've seen every angle that was recorded of that crash, every shot of the crash zone...there was no plane there.

[McTucket]

lol people i know where there in person and saw it.


they covered up the crash site pretty quickly...

the govt. also took the videotapes that show it crashing into the pentagon and such.. for security reasons...

[GraffiXX]

Lol Indeed They did tucky. They have a pretty badly pixelized video of an object hitting the pentagon.

[3043]

I won't be seeing this film. Maybe if the studio wouldn't profit from it then I would see it. But really what is the point? A horrific tragedy doesn't need to be relived for sensationalism. It's pretty damn gauche and macabre.

Shit I didn't buy oil futures three years ago because I refused to proftit from dead american soldiers and I'll be damned if I'm gonna give a movie studio money so they can profit from the slaughter of innoccent americans no matter how heroic the passengers were.

There are about a million other ways to remember the tragedy and honor the dead that are better than a film for profit.

Sometime in the late '80s early or nineties someone went nutty on a Long Island Subway car packed with commuters and shot up a shitload of people. I was working some shit job in an office and someone brought in the New York Post which had the headline which ran:

BLOODBATH ON THE LIRR!

That newspaper was no more reporting the news than this movie is documenting history. Instead they both were sensationalizing tragedy for profit. Both the studio and newspapr can run off and play hide and go fuck themselfs for all I care. The may be capitalist but they are behaving pretty much against the rest of american and family values.

[thegreaterbad]

The movie industry has been doing this for years.... I dont see why you would be offended by it. You act this is the 1st time they have made movies about tragic events....:confused: Like AR said, if you dont like it, protest by not seeing it. I am going to watch it, because (I am stretching here) just maybe theres something in the movie truthful I dont know about, and even though its 98% about the money for the producers, I think I might get a small morale boost out of it.
Because those people on that plane helped save hundreds or more lives by intervening with the Terrorists piloting it, God only knows where that plane was headed, because I know Osama or whoever ran the Op sure as hell didnt just want one of his kamikaze planes going into the ground, it was meant to take more lives, and the heroics of the people on board helped divert that.:smile: And hopefully this film shows me something that I can be even more proud as hell to be american, and give me a little more edge to get overseas and exact justice on those fucking towelheads

[Phenix]

A horrific tragedy doesn't need to be relived for sensationalism. It's pretty damn gauche and macabre.



Every other "news" story is a santionalized story of something tragic, for someone to profit from.

Any movie, based on war, videogames, etc. all of these have someone profiting from entertaining us, by reliving something tragic (or depiciting something tragic)

I personally love war based videogames and movies, but I say fuck war. This movie doesn't really look that good to me (not because it's 911 related or anything, it jsut doesn't look like a good movie) and that is why I won't see it.

Free speech is a right we have in the USA, but where do we draw the line between excercising this right, and using it to exploit someone elses suffering?

[McTucket]

exactly 30... they all beat me to it, i was napping! you must not watch any movies these days... they all capitalize in some form off of events in the past....

but i do understand your point of profiting off of something tragic. newspapers are definitely there to report the news... whether or not they "spin" it to sell a few more papers....

like i said earlier, universal pictures knew it was a touchy subject but thats why they got every single family members approval first, and im guessing thats why there are no major actors in it.

btw this is one of 3 movies about unitedflight93 coming out this year, a tv movie already came out, and oliver stone or some big director is coming out with one at the end of the year/summertime

[Sammie]

I won't be seeing this film. Maybe if the studio wouldn't profit from it then I would see it. But really what is the point? A horrific tragedy doesn't need to be relived for sensationalism. It's pretty damn gauche and macabre.

Shit I didn't buy oil futures three years ago because I refused to proftit from dead american soldiers and I'll be damned if I'm gonna give a movie studio money so they can profit from the slaughter of innoccent americans no matter how heroic the passengers were.

There are about a million other ways to remember the tragedy and honor the dead that are better than a film for profit.



Anti-Capitalist!!!!

you must be some sort of socialist or communist fruit cake



Pure capitalism is profit above all. Anything that deviates from that mantra is just radical liberal bullshit :rolleyes:

[McTucket]

wow. sammie and her theories... where have i heard THAT before?


thread ruined.

[Sammie]

hahaaha!

but

by legal definition the 1st priority to all publically traded companies is their share holders.

shareholders only benefit from profit

free market capitalism is the general mantra according to the insitiutions we have created .....such as corporations wallstreet and fractional reserve centralized banking.

so i stand by my sarcastic bullshit :D

[McTucket]

thats fuckin great. this thread didnt need your babble.. it was an honest conversation with no bullshit. i stand by my word as well...

[RustyBrownSheriffsBadge]

well dude it took 60 years for someone to make a movie about pearl harbor (2000, disney).... everyone wasnt sure even if they were ready for it then...

5 years seems way too soon... I've looked at feedback online about peoples reaction to the trailer and it seems to be real negative....like it was too soon.

Way to soon? Come one of the best ways to get over something is to face it head on. Why not honor the hero's of that day? Give them the proper credit they deserve for the courageous and horrific events of there day.

[thegreaterbad]

Bah, i already said that. You must quote me to repeat those words!!! DO IT QUOTE ME NOW RUSTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:badgrin:

[/QUOTE]Because those people on that plane helped save hundreds or more lives by intervening with the Terrorists piloting it, God only knows where that plane was headed, because I know Osama or whoever ran the Op sure as hell didnt just want one of his kamikaze planes going into the ground, it was meant to take more lives, and the heroics of the people on board helped divert that.:smile: And hopefully this film shows me something that I can be even more proud as hell to be american, and give me a little more edge to get overseas and exact justice on those fucking towelheads

[3043]

Way to soon? Come one of the best ways to get over something is to face it head on. Why not honor the hero's of that day? Give them the proper credit they deserve for the courageous and horrific events of there day.


Speaking of heads on something - one way we could honor them is by bringing me Osama's head on a plate.


As far as movie's not seeing movies goes - you are right on the money whoever suggested that I not see many movies. The last movie I saw was in November - I took my older daughter to a midnight screening of Harry Potter. Before that it was six months before I went into a movie theater and that was just to see Star Wars III for old times sake. Before that I'm not sure...maybe spider man?

GB, the reason why I'm "shocked" is because this isn't just any old exploitation of tragedy this is the Mac Daddy of all american tragedies. And I stand by my original statement - this is a piss poor way to honor their brave sacrifice. There is something to be said for the passage of time and preparing of a country's soul for reliving its worst day of terrorism ever.

I'm all for honoring these heros Rusty but in a for profit dramatization?

[Sammie]

thats fuckin great. this thread didnt need your babble.. it was an honest conversation with no bullshit. i stand by my word as well...


awww do i offend?
im sorry

buck up camper :D

I was joke cracking a joke

no need to get your panties in a wad

Love you Chubbie :D

[McTucket]

you're like alan colmes... you're evil... my grandma says he looks like the devil. so there.

[Sammie]

alan combs? i suppose that is someone I should know

you got your head too far in the box my friend

unplug!!

assimilation has already taken a hold of you!! OhNOOOOESSss :surprised