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Hae-Yu
04-30-2006, 09:10 PM
After I posted my photos to photobucket last week or so, I decided to resubmit them for critiques on myolympus.org. As I was looking through the picture galleries there, I noticed the ones with the most clarity were dSLRs. I got the itch I had to scratch. Also my boss got a new dSLR.

Anyway, I got an Olympus E-500. I like Olys and this is well-rated. For me it's a question of value. I can use several gigs of xD cards, my 2 batteries, and my charger from my current setup. That's a helluva savings right there. In addition, for $644 (inc -$100 rebate) & free shipping/ no taxes, I get the body and 2(!!) lenses from butterflyphoto.com. That's the same price I paid for my point n shoot. I get a 14-45 (35mm-90mm) and a 40-150 (80mm -300mm). A 300mm zoom!! The lenses are well matched and solid performers and the best kit lenses in this price range.

In this class and price range, the Canon EOS 350d DR XT, Nikon D70, and Konika Minolta D5 are all comparable performers with a lot going for them. The Canon is the #1 seller and performer and always in any top 3 picks. So for me, it was between these 2 Oly and Canon, but all of them have things to recommend them.

The Oly E-330 has the first SLR live preview, but the implementation is panned as having issues.

The K-M has image stabilization which I can really use for shaky hands, but they were just bought out by Sony and I don't buy Sony. Least image quality, but the image stabilizer makes up for the user-induced deficiencies. My boss just got one and he loves it. He takes pictures at motorcycle rallies and his son's baseball games. It takes GREAT action shots with really nice color. But you have to pay $90/ yr to get dust removed from the CCD.

The Nikon was a good performer, but the resolution is lower, accessories were more expensive and had less value for me. It also uses a Sony CCD. But value was the prime eliminator.

The Canon has best noise and overall image characteristics and it was really hard for me to pick one over the other. I made a spreadsheet and assigned values and over maybe 50 points, the Oly won by maybe 1.5 pts. That was including value, which was the biggest factor. Usability and features were also important and Canons are a bit plastic-y feeling and small for my hands. However with Canon's overall image quality, I had a hard time turning it down since that's what it's all about. However, the Oly produces comparable images in all but high ISO ranges, and I can avoid those. In addition, the noise is still way lower than my current camera.

Finally, I live in a dusty environment and the Oly has a built-in dust remover for the CCD. No $90/ yr to clean it.

In addition, Leica is introducing a lens with Panasonic's upcoming Lumix L-1 SLR. The lens has image stabilization built in and since it uses the 4/3 system, I can use it on my camera. So then I get the best of all worlds.

I have bought 2 cameras & recommended 1 (maybe 2) camera through butterflyphoto.com and they have been great. Adorama.com is who Amazon goes through and they are great for filters and accessories.

Sammie
04-30-2006, 09:43 PM
oh I'm green with envy!!

Let us know when you get it and what you think overall.


I want a DSLR !!! 650 isnt a bad deal

Hae-Yu
05-01-2006, 01:57 AM
Here's dpreview's side-by-side spec comparison (http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/olympuse500/page19.asp) of the Canon, Oly and Nikon D-50. The next page has image comparisons between E-500 and Canon and 2 pages later, E-500 vs the Nikon.

Here's a page (http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/OlympusE500/page4.shtml) that runs all 4 of the above mentioned cameras (Nikon D50, K-M D5, Canon 350D, and E-500) side-by-side on image quality tests.

As you can see, each have their strengths and weaknesses, and a lot of the latter portion is dependent on the kit lens. If you want to eliminate barrel and pincushion from differences, well, you have to fork out for a premium lens.

In any case, these cameras are so damn close if I got any as a gift, I'd be happy.

Oh I see, the D50 is actually newer than the D70. OK. I was wondering why (http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond50/) everyone compared the E-500 to the D50 instead of the D-70. The D-70 compares with the Oly E-1. Both are slightly more upscale and also over a year older.

The new Panasonic coming in October (http://www.wrotniak.net/photo/oly-e/l1.html) is a beautiful camera and is based on the Oly E-330. It looks to be too rich for my blood though. I love how the buttons and controls are accessible and you don't have to jog down through a menus.

Hae-Yu
05-01-2006, 02:09 AM
Here's a list of hard camera sites I used in my research. It all seems greek at first, but after a bit it starts gelling.

* Camera Labs (http://www.cameralabs.com/)
* Digital Camera Resource (http://www.dcresource.com/)
* DP Review (http://www.dpreview.com/)
*Image Resource (http://www.imaging-resource.com/)
Lets Go Digital (http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/index.html)
* Megapixel.net (http://www.megapixel.net/html/cover.php)
* Steve's Digicams (http://www.steves-digicams.com/)
Pocket-lint (http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/channel_index.php?categoryId=1)
Trusted Reviews (http://www.trustedreviews.com/)
Digital Photography Blog (http://www.livingroom.org.au/photolog/) (Collects all the reviews of a camera from the mainstream review sites)
* are most valuable ones. They review the whole gamut of cameras from the cheapest to the top-end. If you're looking at cameras for a gift, they are good sources.

Snk
05-02-2006, 03:32 PM
NIkon for life! Sorry I had to :)

Hae-Yu
05-02-2006, 05:21 PM
That's OK:) I was at Nature Photographers (http://www.naturephotographers.net/)and as I was browsing I couldn't believe how many were Nikons. They put out some good images, I just wish I was as good as any of these guys.

Sammie
05-02-2006, 10:03 PM
I may be a Nikon for lifer if the next camera uses the same lense attachments, batteries and chargers as the one I have now. I dont want to replace all that stuff. Esp the lenses. They are quite expensive.

Sammie
05-02-2006, 10:08 PM
omg! have you checked out the stats on the Nikon D2X??

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond2x/page2.asp

Drool!


Anyone have 4 grand I can borrow?


http://cgi.ebay.com/Nikon-D2X-12-4-Megapixel-Digital-SLR-PKG-4GB-USA_W0QQitemZ7614614884QQcategoryZ43456QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem

This looks like a pretty good deal but I'm not sure about the lenses, esp the macro lense they include.

I'm not going to jump into anything. I've done pretty well paying off debt recently. In fact, I paid off $9,200 in debt this morning and I paid off $8,000 in debt last month so the last thing I want to do is add back on to it.
But if I can pull off another $25,000 month sometime soon, I might treat myself :D
Much research to do before hand though. That's one hell of an expensive camera. The body alone retails anywhere bwtween $3,999.99 to $5,000

Hae-Yu
05-07-2006, 04:27 PM
That is a beautiful camera. I didn't even look that high. I glanced at the Canon 10,20 and 30D models and a few others, but that is entirely too much (for me) to spend on a camera. Let's not get into their lenses either.

If you're making $25000 months and you're out of debt, I would consider it though. Buy the best you can afford and you'll be happy longer. Just check out the cost of the lenses first.

I think that once you buy into a camera system that high end, it does lock you in though so you better make that first purchase wisely.

I got mine in on Friday along with the extras. I'm too busy on schoolwork to do more than unpack it, check out and play with the menus. Overall, it has a nice feel and weight and good size for my hands. The lenses have good, useful zoom ranges. The lenses are very well made and have a solid feel to them.

The package shipped with lots of little extras.
It has a viewfinder cover that you slide into place on dark nights to keep light from entering via the viewfinder.
It shipped with hoods for each lens, although the hood that shipped with the 14-40 lens causes vignetting at the corners when the camera is at its widest angle. You really only need hoods on tele anyway.
Battery, charger, a really nice manual, and a few other things.

In RAW I can burst off 3 or 4 shots depending on how detailed the scene is. AT HQ 1/12 compression I can snap off 12 shots before it holds back using xD cards. Good CF cards probably add a few frames to those numbers. Color looks great too and pictures are very sharp. The reviews say it has a 2 sec startup; however, I find it to be pretty damn fast after disabling the splash screen. If I flick the switch as I pick it up, it is ready to go by the time it hits my eye. It is much faster than my C5060 and faster than a Canon EOS 300.

The manual focusing on the lenses is odd and the small viewfinder is difficult to use. I'm too used to composing on the LCD though. I need to spend some time on it to get used to it though.