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McTucket
05-19-2006, 03:49 PM
Bush Backs English as 'Common and Unifying'
Senate Immigration Bill Includes Language Amendments
By SUZANNE GAMBOA, AP

WASHINGTON (May 19) - President George W. Bush supports two Senate proposals that English is the U.S. language and the "common and unifying language," White House spokesman Tony Snow said Friday.




"What the president has said all along is that he wants to make sure that people who become American citizens have a command of the English language," Snow said. "It's as simple as that."

The Senate on Thursday first voted 63-34 to make English the national language of the United States after lawmakers who led the effort said it would promote national unity.

But critics argued the move would prevent limited English speakers from getting language assistance required by an executive order signed by former President Bill Clinton. So the Senate then voted 58-39 on saying that English is the U.S.'s "common and unifying language."



Sen. Ken Salazar offered the alternative. The only Republican to vote solely for Salazar's "common and unifying" language option was Sen. Pete Domenici of New Mexico, whose home state's constitution prohibits discrimination on basis of inability to speak, read or write English or Spanish.

Both provisions will be included in an immigration bill the Senate is expected to pass and send to conference with the House, where differences will be resolved.

Bush, who often peppers his speeches with Spanish words and phrases, had little to say about the Senate votes while visiting the Arizona-Mexico border. "The Senate needs to get the bill out," the president said.

Bush toured an unfortified section of the border in the Arizona desert Thursday, where he endorsed using fences and other barriers to cut down on illegal crossings. The Senate on Wednesday voted to put 370 miles of fences on the border.

Bush's border visit was part of his efforts to win over conservatives balking at his support for a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants and a new guest worker program.

Bush asked Congress for $1.9 billion Thursday to pay for 1,000 Border Patrol agents and the temporary deployment of up to 6,000 National Guard troops to states along the Mexican border.

Sammie
05-19-2006, 06:35 PM
what we need is a wall like berlin or irsreal

walls always go over well. people love them

:biggrin:

Hae-Yu
05-20-2006, 12:59 AM
He's just pandering to his base. Politics sucks.

Phenix
05-20-2006, 08:38 AM
He's just pandering to his base. Politics sucks.


All your base are belonging to Bush



He IS the decider!!!

Hae-Yu
05-20-2006, 04:12 PM
He's in no way a decider. How many bills has he vetoed?
We don't need Homeland Security. Idiot Congressional pressure. We love the idea of a new department.
We don't need another intelligence bureaucracy. 9/11 commission idiots. We have created a new Intelligence Czar post.
Yeah Bush makes decisions. Just like Clinton, every decision is made by watching the polls. Both of them are gutless fucks.

Bush is courting Latino voters to bring them into the Republican fold but his redneck base is scared of a better tanned America. With this stupid bill, Bush is trying to play to his xenophobic, rascist base, which has deserted him over the immigration issue. He's just trying to pick the least controversial ones.

Somehow redneck America has forgotten that Ali and Fisal are trying to blow us up and Julio and Manuel have become our major enemies. The wall, I can understand for security reasons to keep Ali and Fisal out, but Pancho Villa was the last Mexican terrorist to strike the US. All these other laws - English, immigration restrictions,... They're just fucking with Latinos now.

McTucket
05-20-2006, 06:21 PM
how the fuck is he courting latino votes? by putting up fences and ordering 6k trooops on the border?

also, i would say that making that decision proves he has guts... its a make or break decision...

Hae-Yu
05-21-2006, 01:13 AM
Look at the progression.

1) Frequent dirka dirka dirka spanglish-speak in his speeches.
2) He starts talking about a "comprehesive immigration plan." No mention of walls or English as a common language. It read much like Reagan's amnesty plan. It's why Reagan and both Bushes had strong Latino support. He was trying to win over Latinos.
3) The redneck base starts crying OMG!! Too many darkies are already here! The majority of both Republicans in both houses desert him and cry out in open rebellion against him. He drops to his lowest numbers in years. Conservative columnists, editorialists, and dirtball rascists like O'Reilly start screaming bloody murder. Maybe my Anglo-Saxon first off the Jamestown boat ancestors should have kept Micks like him out. Well, we tried.
3a) Some hide behind phrases like the following:
--We need to seal our borders against terrorists. There is something to this argument, but speaking to ANYONE who advocates it at length turns up a racist who's uncomfortable with changing demographics.
--Them Mexicans are lowering wages on high-fashion jobs like 'mater pickin, house cleanin, and busboys. The ambitious ones actually move into jobs generally occupied by our teenagers. Like fry cook; entry-level, non-union construction; and yard cleaning.
--They are here illegally and we shouldn't reward illegal behavior. I'm sorry, but people who are willing to leave their country to make a better life for their families are the kinds of people who make great Americans. I'd trade 10 welfare mamas for 1 border jumper. Since it's racists, maybe a paraphrase from Hitler would help them: "America is a racially superior country. Their ancestors boldly sought to take their fate into their own hands and move to a new land seeking new lives. The ones that stayed behind were sheep, cowards, and old ladies." In a sense, he was right. Not in the racist way, but the attitude our ancestors carried with them still (somewhat) perserveres.
--The Hispancis aren't integrating. Bullshit. I see it on my street; we all see it by the growth of Protestant Latino churches among 2nd and 3rd generations.
--Finally the honest idiots say "I don't want my kids speakin Spanish." Like that'll really happen.
4) Except for McCain and a few others, he has no support for immigration reform. The rightists' idea of "immigration reform" is to deport as many as they can.
5) Mexicans waving Mexican flags at marches. I can agree with the hard righters that every one of those mofos need deporting. However, rightists use that to justify the lie that Latinos aren't integrating. Polls show majorities of voting Dems AND Reps oppose him.
6) Some dumb latinos sing the Anthem in Spanish - oooooo. I'm sure Brits cringe when we use their national anthem to sing "My Country 'Tis of Thee." At least the Hispanics aren't changing the words.
7) To placate the dirtballs, he sends NG troops to the border.
8) Then he says he supports this stupid amendment. Why do we need to have English declared the "official language"? We aren't Europe with homogenous cultures. We're America. We never had a homogeous culture.

He doesn't have any guts. He started with an open "not an amnesty" amnesty plan and now he's trying to keep from losing what little support is left by taking a "get tough on the wetbacks" "protect our Anglo-Saxon heritage" approach.

Hae-Yu
05-21-2006, 01:21 AM
If he has any guts, where's the guest worker plan he proposed a couple of months back which started this whole thing?
Not there.
Now we have 1 weak and 1 strong anti-immigrant bills being passed both of which are competely contrary to what he was trying to accomplish.
If his poll ratings sink any lower, I wouldn't be surprised if he deputized the idiots volunteering for the "cap a wetback" brigades.

McTucket
05-21-2006, 03:05 AM
i understand hes trying to rally up the latino votes i agree with MOST of your opinion.. but patroling the border, putting up fences, and finally doing this without hardly any support still says hes trying to do what HE wants to do.. which takes some cojones... lol