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Sammie
05-31-2006, 08:24 PM
Represent! :tongue:

Video games push for Olympic recognition

Global Gaming League talking with China to bring competitive gaming to the Beijing 2008 games

Game Over is a weekly column by Chris Morris (chris.morris@turner.com)
May 31, 2006: 11:50 AM EDT


NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) - A mouse, keyboard and/or Xbox controller don't seem like the standard gear of an Olympic athlete, but Ted Owen wants to change that.
Owen, who runs the Global Gaming League (GGL), a media company focused on the lifestyle and culture of gaming, is currently talking with the Chinese government in hopes of bringing competitive video gaming to the 2008 Games as a demonstration sport.

Admittedly, it's an uphill battle. Even if you can look past the lack of physical skills necessary to play video games, the Olympics haven't had any sort of demonstration sport since 1992 - and Olympic experts say there has been no movement to bring them back.
Owen, though, said he believes gaming's worldwide appeal - especially to a younger audience - could be the biggest boost to the Games since snowboarding.
"People aren't watching [the Olympics] as much anymore," he argued. "You need to bring younger viewers back if you want to keep making money. To do that, you need to embrace non-traditional sports. They did it with snowboarding - and look how the popularity of that has surged in the Games. Video games deserve to be seen as a non-traditional sport. ... They would bring something to the Games that [that age group] engages in and everyone understands."
Though gaming doesn't take much physical prowess (a quick glance at many of the most talented competitive gamers is confirmation enough), it does demand incredible hand-eye coordination - arguably as much as golf and tennis.
There's big money in it, too. The best players can earn over $100,000 per year in tournaments - and several times that in endorsement deals. Companies from Microsoft (http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=MSFT) (Research (http://cnnfn.investor.reuters.com/Reports.aspx?ticker=MSFT)) to Intel (http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=INTC) (Research (http://cnnfn.investor.reuters.com/Reports.aspx?ticker=INTC)) currently sponsor teams of players and even venture capitalists are getting interested - Major League Gaming received $10 million in funding earlier this year from Ritchie Capital. Other big leagues include the World Cyber Games and Cyberathlete Professional League.
Television networks are getting interested, too. NBC's USA Network will air a series of seven hour-long shows featuring Major League Gaming tournaments this fall.
But financial and network interest don't earn a sport an Olympic berth; Just ask fans of golf, motorcycle racing and bowling - or, for that matter, baseball, which (along with softball) will be dropped from the Olympics in 2012. And the fact that video gaming is so technology dependent could be particularly damaging.
"There's a big campaign in the [International Olympic Committee] to get kids away from computer terminals," said Ed Hula, editor and founder of Around the Rings, an Olympic newsletter. "[Lobbying for] video gaming would be like asking the IOC to approve power smoking."
The GGL, through Owen and the company's Chinese branch in Chengdu, hasn't actually spoken with the IOC yet. All negotiations have been with the Chinese government, but Owen said they have been very encouraging.
"There is interest at the highest levels," he said. "It is something that has momentum."
China, he said, is an ideal place to debut competitive gaming on the Olympic stage, since it's such a major part of the Asian culture. In China alone, the market is forecast to top $2 billion annually by 2010 - and console manufacturers are fine tuning plans to enter the market now. (Piracy concerns add special challenges for publishers in the country.)
"Gaming is elevated to a pastime in Asia," said Owen. "This is the natural place for an exhibition Olympic video game tournament to occur. If we get Chinese approval to do this and we present it to the IOC, it would be very unlikely to me that the IOC wouldn't consider that. The only reason they haven't done an exhibition sport in the past several years is no one has brought a good one to them."
That's debatable. Hula said the reason behind the elimination of demonstration (or exhibition) sports was they were hurting the integrity of the Games. Further, organizers were unable to agree upon replacement medal sports for baseball and softball in 2012 and under Olympic rules will not be able to add any more until 2016.
"If they can't figure out sports to give real medals to, then you can forget about them adding 'let's pretend' sports," said Hula.
Competitive video gaming is also not currently recognized by the IOC. That puts it behind fields including billiards, bridge, chess and tug of war, which are all on the committee's list of recognized sports (http://www.olympic.org/uk/sports/recognized/index_uk.asp) - considered the first step (but certainly not a guarantee) in becoming an Olympic sport.
Owen, though, remains undeterred.
"If the IOC pushed back on us and we had the Chinese government approving us, we would do it anyway," he said. "We may not have the circles, but we'd do it right by the stadiums and would bask in the glow of the Olympic light. ... Everyone wants to watch the best at anything ... and it's time to let people see the best this field has to offer."


SOURCE: http://money.cnn.com/2006/05/31/commentary/game_over/column_gaming/index.htm

papa smurf
06-01-2006, 05:35 AM
i"d say yes to that ill pwn every noob that comes near me

Snk
06-01-2006, 08:52 AM
Are you fuckin kiddin me???

I love games but jesus I dont see how anyone could even think it should be in something like the Olympics.....:rolleyes:

GraffiXX
06-01-2006, 09:19 AM
Why not. Gaming has been on a steady Increase. I think its time it is recognized as a fuckin sport. GAMERS FUCKIN ROCK they arent NERDS just asskickers.!




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Snk
06-01-2006, 09:25 AM
Why not. Gaming has been on a steady Increase. I think its time it is recognized as a fuckin sport. GAMERS FUCKIN ROCK they arent NERDS just asskickers.!




So whose down to go to Bejing to REP GNG>!?

I agree with you and all man but come on....in no way is playing CS a physical thing and almost anyone can learn how to play and play well. While there are just some people who are naturally good at games and hand eye cordnation I just dont see how this could even be considered to be in the olympics....

papa smurf
06-01-2006, 09:43 AM
I agree with you and all man but come on....in no way is playing CS a physical thing and almost anyone can learn how to play and play well. While there are just some people who are naturally good at games and hand eye cordnation I just dont see how this could even be considered to be in the olympics....i agree with grafixx gamers arent nerds we just like to kick some fucking ass:neutral:

Snk
06-01-2006, 09:53 AM
i agree with grafixx gamers arent nerds we just like to kick some fucking ass:neutral:

Being called or classified as a nerd has nothing to do with it, its the pure and simple fact that the Olympics is to honor the worlds ATHLETES not gamers. Sorry but it has to be athletic in order for it to be in the damn Olympics of all things.

Hell add somethen like paintball before you add gaming..cause that is athletic....not guys sitting in front of computers playing videogames.

GraffiXX
06-01-2006, 09:54 AM
I hear ya...But there is a certain amount of Skill involved with gaming. Not just natural born talent.



I will tell you I used to fuckin BLOW at cs(hence why i had my wallhacks and aimbots)....But after source was released I played my ass off and got good. It is a sport you have to work at to get good.


If you try and tell me that you were coming into CS playing like you do you lie like a fuckin rug. Everyone put their work in to get where their at with skills and whatnot.


Granted some do i will say that*cough cough* asians*cough cough* I dont know what it is but they are dominating at CS. Thats why they want it./


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GraffiXX
06-01-2006, 09:55 AM
SNK your views are different...Its about GOD DAMN time GAMERS get recognizd.

Snk
06-01-2006, 10:02 AM
SNK your views are different...Its about GOD DAMN time GAMERS get recognizd.

Graff I agree with you Gamers do need to be recongnized as a skill and not just a past time but I dont think the Olympics is the place to do it. That should be the last place it is done before anything else. We should see it on ESPN and such before the Olympics.

It definatliy is a skill and a talent that you have to work on Ive been playing Counterstrike for about 6 or 7 years now and yea im a whole hell of a lot better then I was when I first started. I agree with all of your statements trust me.

Sammie
06-01-2006, 11:41 AM
Gamers on roids.....news at 11

Nebula
06-01-2006, 11:52 AM
Gamers on roids.....news at 11

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I wonder if they would drug test the gamers :eek:

back on the subject though. I kind of agree with both sides of this.

On one hand, I agree with SNK.. gaming isnt _exactly_ a sport. But neither is Poker (which I also disagree with being in the olympics)
However, it seems as if they are trying to show regocnition for mental abilities, along with physical in the olympics.

I also say that games arent _exactly_ a sport for a few reasons. Depending on the game, and level of competition is where that stands. As far as I am concerned, games like Counter-Strike are almost border-line sports. You have to learn to work as a team, have very good hand-eye coordination. I think it would be fun/interesting to see games get that kind of publicity.

Snk
06-01-2006, 11:57 AM
If they did that then 90% of the players wouldnt be worth a shit :lol:

Candii.blisS
06-01-2006, 12:31 PM
LOL IF CS became a part of the olympics. i'd definitely have to try out.. for the special olympics. Yeah, wearing a helmet too. :biggrin:

Candii.blisS
06-01-2006, 12:33 PM
II will tell you I used to fuckin BLOW at cs(hence why i had my wallhacks and aimbots)....But after source was released I played my ass off and got good. It is a sport you have to work at to get good.....Granted some do i will say that*cough cough* asians*cough cough* I dont know what it is but they are dominating at CS. Thats why they want it./


screw asians, hahahah white people ftw! o.O

i dont believe you used to blow at cs though, graff. i thought you were born with your hands in the WASD position. :]

Snk
06-01-2006, 12:44 PM
screw asians, hahahah white people ftw! o.O

i dont believe you used to blow at cs though, graff. i thought you were born with your hands in the WASD position. :]

No your confused....he was born with a awp in his hands :biggrin:

GraffiXX
06-01-2006, 01:58 PM
Lol....damn i didnt know it was that big!.

but nah I used to blow ass chunks. then I hacked. and now im skill from hacks. so I guess you could say I do hack but not really.

Snk
06-01-2006, 02:18 PM
Lol....damn i didnt know it was that big!.

but nah I used to blow ass chunks. then I hacked. and now im skill from hacks. so I guess you could say I do hack but not really.
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GraffiXX
06-01-2006, 02:39 PM
you know it BAN Me ILL HACK MY WAY BACK :lol:

Mr.Pink
06-01-2006, 05:19 PM
Computer games in olympics = dumb idea sorry. Won't ever happen and I know I'll piss some people off. If they make that they might as well throw in marbles, cards, chess, thumb wrestling, finger painting, coffee brewing, and lawn mowing.

These are PHYSICAL SPORT ATHLETICS. If you can't get hurt doing them, I dont think they should be in the olympics. And that doesn't include finger cramps or eye burnings from the screen.

Sammie
06-01-2006, 06:27 PM
bah!

you and your rules :rolleyes:

I think they should make sex and bong smoking olympic events

Lets shake things up a bit.

Who wouldnt rather see that than ice skating and synchronized swimming?

GraffiXX
06-01-2006, 07:14 PM
No bullshit. I think Competitive Blunt Chiefing or Bong Hitting sound alot better than that garbage.



your right about that pink CS shouldnt be a sport because its a way of life. Kiddie games I tell you.!:biggrin:

Mr.Pink
06-01-2006, 09:42 PM
haha... good stuff... i love these kind of debates, it's almost like arguing the legalization of marijuana.

GraffiXX
06-01-2006, 10:10 PM
Masterdebater!:biggrin:

L1veUndead
06-01-2006, 10:34 PM
Sex, Video Games, and Masturbation should all be sports.

Case closed....


NEXT!

sysdaemon
06-07-2006, 05:29 PM
Going into Woodbridge near my house, there is a big sign saying "expect delays on whatever date for running the special olympics torch." I thought that was funny