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Hae-Yu
10-16-2006, 02:12 PM
This started up in Papa Smurf's thread, but I didn't want to hijack it.

Napoleon (the megalomaniac) instituted the metric system. The metric system is still as arbitrary as the Imperial/ standard system. What's worse is, though it has become supposedly more "scientific" it is divorced from common usage. You cannot eyeball most metric. The only things easier are remembering deci, centi, milli, etc. and converting between units but that's just laziness. Just because the rest of the world uses it, doesn't make it better.

In real life, it's easier to divide something up into 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, 1/16. You can divide a quadrangle into thirds easily too. Divide a cake into 10 equal pieces.

The Imperial system was based on common usage and everything can be eyeballed.

1 cup=4 mouthfuls. Pint=2 cups. 1 quart=2 pints. 4 quarts=1 gallon. A peck =2 gallons. A bushel=4 pecks. A cask=2 bushels. A barrel=2 casks. 8 barrels= ton/ tun. I don't know all the intermediate measures, but it was always x2 from mouthful to ton.

A grain was the basic unit of measurement with a # of barley grains equal to ounces, pounds, tons.

A foot is a foot long. A cubit is a forearm long (elbow to fingertip) and a yard is 2 forearms long. A fathom is 6'. A rod is 20'. A chain is 80'. A league is 3 miles - an hour's walk. A mile was 1000 steps, but changed to 8 furlongs or 80 chains to make it even.

A furlong is 1 furrow long - how much was plowed between rests - 10 chains. An acre (1 field) was 1 furlong x 4 chains: how much you could plow in a day. Sure these are now difficult, but at one time, most people understood them because it was everyday. Metric is learned similarly, but EVERYTHING has to be learned.

How do you eyeball a meter? Hey Paul, does that look to be 1/10,000,000th from the equator to the pole? Yeah sure, Bob. A kilogram is easier if you happen to have a liter of water nearby at sea level. But since the official standard weighs less than it did 100 years ago, what good is it?

I have to work in metric quite a bit. It works fine for things which you can't eyeball or guesstimate like electricity, rf, light, etc.

papa smurf
10-16-2006, 03:52 PM
i never started a thread like dis?

Nebula
10-16-2006, 04:28 PM
i never started a thread like dis?

yes you did...

Hoplon
10-16-2006, 04:35 PM
I like doing things in standard better too. I just think it's in the best interest of the world to convert to one unified system.

sylverarrow
10-16-2006, 04:54 PM
what the hell is a 'dis'? :wink:

Nebula
10-16-2006, 05:41 PM
I like doing things in standard better too. I just think it's in the best interest of the world to convert to one unified system.

but metric is more universal if I'm not mistaken?

Hoplon
10-16-2006, 07:42 PM
but metric is more universal if I'm not mistaken?


Metric is used in virutally every country.

Santa
10-16-2006, 08:21 PM
standard imo is the best as you pointed out

Laroacha
10-17-2006, 05:27 AM
Motherfuck you guy's need to drink more..............You have way to many lucid thoughts. arrrrggggg.......

Sckoarn
10-17-2006, 11:15 AM
I think metric makes it easyer to convert lots of units into a fewer units.

As in 1000m = 1km

and milleleters to leters.

Of course the "eye ball" judgement statement is overcome by using the system, soon enough you will not know what a pint is.

The biggest problem is that the amaricans refuse to change, and it is because of the cost. But the longer they wait the more it will cost. The silly thing is that ALL scientific stuff is done in metric, so at least part of the US is forced to use it. Are the Space shuttles built in metric or standard?

Snk
10-17-2006, 12:06 PM
what the hell is a 'dis'? :wink:

dis
A verb (or possibly noun) that refers to insulting or in some other way defaming someone or something.

He was dissed by someone who hated him

1.to disrespect some one
2.this

......:lol:

Nebula
10-17-2006, 12:25 PM
dis
A verb (or possibly noun) that refers to insulting or in some other way defaming someone or something.

He was dissed by someone who hated him

1.to disrespect some one
2.this

......:lol:


I'll take "what is THIS" for 1,000 Bob.

Hoplon
10-17-2006, 01:24 PM
The biggest problem is that the amaricans refuse to change, and it is because of the cost. But the longer they wait the more it will cost. The silly thing is that ALL scientific stuff is done in metric, so at least part of the US is forced to use it. Are the Space shuttles built in metric or standard?

Sense the Mars Climate Orbiter Incident i'm fairly sure nasa will be using metric units exclusivly for calculating. If you're unfamilair with what happened, basically they sent coordinates that were caluclated in standard to a navigation system programed in metric.

I don't know what system the shuttles are build on. I know the aircraft engines i work on, C-130's, are standard.

However i believe congress has ordered all goverment agencies to convert to the metric system, which won't happen for quite some time.

Hae-Yu
10-17-2006, 02:07 PM
You have way to many lucid thoughts

I just felt like defending a passing way of life :) I know metric is going to win sooner or later, but people should realize that just because the old ways are old and new ways are new doesn't make one inherently better than the other.

A lot of the old ways were based on everyday, tangible things, not abstracted concepts that require a billion dollar particle accelerator to determine (how far particle x travels in x picoseconds).